On Sep 2, 3:58=A0pm, Naraht wrote:
> On Sep 2, 1:07=A0pm, "David Tenner" wrote:
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> > Naraht wrote innews:7ae86a34-5ba9-4b6b-b696-d2f53a8=
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> > > On Aug 31, 6:55 am, heretic wrote:
> > >> On Aug 22, 12:43 pm, Naraht wrote:
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> > >> > With a POD after WWII, have at least one recognized Nation where a
> > >> > person can get arrested for converting from Christianity to anythi=
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> > >> > (Islam, Judaism).
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> > >> > My personal candidates, not sure how realistic they are...
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> > >> > Spain: Juan Carlos II is more conservative than Franco...
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> > >> > Uganda: Lord's Resistance Army wins...
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> > >> > other ideas?
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> > >> Much of the Balkan National Movements were tied tightly enough to th=
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> > >> various Millets for this to be very plausable.
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> > >> HTG
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> > > So maybe Serbia, Greece or Bulgaria in the 1905-1914 time period?
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> > Well, if we are to ignore the requirement of "a POD after World War II,=
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> > we can note that the Russian Empire--even after the 1905 Revolution--
> > *formally* prohibited conversion from Christianity to Islam without
> > government permission. =A0There was one loophole, however:
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> > "One of the first concessions wrested from the crown in the modst of th=
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> > disastrous war, the edict of religious toleration of April 17, 1905,
> > seemed =A0further to enhance the power and prestige of the 'East.' Form=
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> > the edict granted the right to convert freely only from one Christian
> > faith or denomination to another. =A0For Muslims, it was not meant to
> > introduce any change in the tsarist position. =A0To convert from
> > Christianity to Islam, a person had to prove that he or she had in fact
> > always practiced Islam and had been Christian in name only; in other
> > words, the state guaranteed the right to *be* a Muslim but not to *beco=
me*
> > one, which had already been the case before 1905. =A0Nonetheless the la=
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> Could one convert from Christianity to Judaism and then from Judaism
> to Islam?
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> (and yes, this doesn't qualify as post WWII, but 20th century still
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Person I know converted to Islam after a stint in Vietnam in 1971 and
practiced for about six years. He later married a girl in a Catholic
ceremony and started re-attending Mass weekly. In the time since, he
has founded an architecural firm and does business (moderately world-
wide). About a year ago, he had to pass on a potential contract in the
Middle East when told by the State Department that it would be in his
interest NOT to go there. If the Islamics ever found out that he was a
lapsed Moslem, his life would be forfeit. |
