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Re: Anjou France or An Alternate Enlightenment Posted on: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:49 -0500

Marcel wrote:

>Rich Rostrom wrote:
>> Yabbut Phillipe was not the heir to France, since he was
>> the younger son of Louis' eldest son, Louis, "le grand
>> Dauphin". The line of inheritance was to Louis lGD,
>> lGD's eldest son, Louis Duke of Burgundy, and Louis DoB's
>> son, Louis XV.
>>
>> Unless there is a PoD which eliminates Phillipe's older
>> brother and nephew, there is no possible union of crowns.
>>
>> I'd further suggest that any arrangement which added
>> Spain to the already overweening power of France would
>> provoke resistance from just about every other European
>> power.
>>
>Didn't both the Grand Dauphin and the Duke of Burgundy die
>before Louis XIV?

Yep. There's a reason why the royal physician was known as
"the killer of princes."

>If a different treaty of Prague was signed it would be possible
>that Philip could be in line from the throne, since he was the
>younger brother of the Duke of Burgundy.

Only if the DoB died without a male heir. Well, he could
be heir presumptive till the DoB's son (Louis XV) has a
son himself. But the other powers will oppose any treaty
that allows such an outcome.

>The point of this timeline is the fact
>that Philip becomes the ruler of both France and Spain.

Which in my opinion requires ASBs. The union
of France and Spain, with all of Spain's external
assets, would be way too much of a threat to the
other powers of Europe.

Austria, Britain, and the Netherlands will oppose
this outcome to the bitter end.

Or perhaps not ASBs - Eugene of Savoy as France's
#1 general might turn the balance very substantially.

>I suppose he might become the regent of France while
>his nephew, Louis XV was growing up.

Unlikely, as Louis XIV wanted his bastards sons by
Montespan, Maine and Toulouse, to lead the regency,
and then was persuaded to make his nephew the Duke of
Orleans regent.

No one supported Philip; Orleans especially opposed
Philip's influence. Spain was estranged from France.
There was even a brief, very-low profile war between
Spain against France allied with Britain.
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